During today’s hearing of Lyudmyla Kozlovska from the Open Dialogue Foundation (ODF), she admitted that Moldovan services showed her data from a secret report by the Internal Security Agency (ABW) in Poland.
Today, an online hearing was held with Ludmiła Kozłowska from the Open Dialogue Foundation as part of an ongoing trial filed by Lyudmyla Kozlovska and Bartosz Kramek against Tomasz Sakiewicz, the editor-in-chief of “Gazeta Polska.” The trial concerns the funding of the Open Dialogue Foundation.
During today’s hearing, Tomasz Sakiewicz asked questions to the representative of the Open Dialogue Foundation for several dozen minutes. However, the court dismissed a large part of them.
During the hearing, shocking words about a secret ABW report were uttered
Lyudmyla Kozlovska admitted that she was included on the list based on “secret opinions of ABW, which, as far as we know unofficially (…), were built on [incomprehensible] Moldovan fakes, including a report from Moldova that was later debunked.”
“ABW has not published these documents to this day. We demanded that this information be made public,” Kozlovska said.
When asked if she had acquainted herself with the secret ABW report, she said she did not have the opportunity, and “the Polish court has repeatedly stated that it is unfounded, that the information there is insufficient.”
Tomasz Sakiewicz asked if Kozlovska had been recognized as a dangerous person to the Polish state.
“Based on this secret report, to which I never had access, and which was previously built, as far as I know from Moldovan services, now democratic, based on fake news from Kazakhstan and Moldova,” she replied.
“If this report is secret, how could you know that it is based only on the Moldovan report?” Sakiewicz asked.
“Because Moldovan services showed me this information,” Kozlovska answered.
“Moldovan services showed you a secret report from the Polish ABW?”
“Yes, exactly.”
“A Polish state secret?” Sakiewicz inquired.
“Yes, you testified that you received it from the secret Moldovan services,” the judge concluded.
Controversies in Poland concerning ODF
ODF has been embroiled in controversy since mid-2017 when Bartosz Kramek, the Chair of its Board, published a Facebook article discussing potential civil disobedience measures against Poland’s Law and Justice government. In August 2018, the Polish government expelled Lyudmyla Kozlovska, the President of ODF and Kramek’s wife, from the Schengen zone by including her in the Schengen Information System.
The government cited confidential intelligence indicating that the NGO had received funding from Russia. Polish foreign minister Witold Waszczykowski, in an interview, acknowledged that the expulsion was due to ODF’s pursuit of “anti-Polish goals in Brussels” and their “actions against a democratically elected government,” including the drafting of a detailed plan to overthrow the Polish government.