“Security issues dominated the discussions, but so did the rule of law and the current situation in Poland. The White House and members of Congress are receiving reports that there is, in fact, an attempt to censor certain media outlets that are independent of the government. The questions I was asked reflected a belief that such things are occurring—that the elections in Poland are unfair due to media censorship, that the rule of law is being violated, and that actions are taking place which should not occur in a democratic state, such as the withdrawal of public funding. There was an effort to confirm from an independent candidate that this is not merely an attempt to impose a political narrative,” said Dr. Karol Nawrocki, candidate for President of the Republic of Poland, who is currently visiting the United States, in an interview with TV Republika.
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In a conversation with Karol Nawrocki, Michał Rachoń recalled that during a joint visit of the Polish President and Prime Minister to the U.S., Mike Johnson refused to meet with Donald Tusk, reminding the public of Tusk’s past criticisms of half of the American political class.
“I have always adhered to the principle, in various international roles representing Poland over many years, that one should not speak ill of Poland. Today, many people ask about the irresponsible gestures and words of Donald Tusk. I was asked whether it was fake news that Tusk mimicked pointing a gun at Donald Trump’s back and claimed Trump was a Soviet agent. I had already criticized such political recklessness in Poland, and today I realized that it did not go unnoticed among congressmen, advisors, and ministers close to Donald Trump. These gestures complicate U.S.-Poland relations. Outside our country, we should seek a unified voice and conduct visits that confer seriousness on the Polish state. Unfortunately, Prime Minister Tusk’s behaviour has further consequences, and they are not good for Poland,”
Nawrocki stated.
NATO Relations Are Crucial
Speaking about his vision for transatlantic policy, especially in the context of trade tensions, the presidential candidate said, “We are, and should remain, part of the EU. However, attempts to build an alternative to NATO—such as what is happening within the EU—or efforts at EU centralization coming from Brussels, raise many questions both in Poland and abroad.”
“For us, the alliance with the United States, grounded in shared values over centuries and now having a practical dimension—10,000 U.S. Army troops stationed in Poland and the building of our security architecture—is crucial. We must primarily arm ourselves. We will not build security without the strong conviction that we need a powerful military with good equipment, but we also will not achieve it without strong international relationships. NATO ties are key for Poland. Economically, we need American investment, especially in the field of new technologies, so that we do not miss the moment of technological breakthrough,”
Nawrocki added.
He confirmed that the issue of nuclear energy for Poland also came up during the discussions.
“The U.S. Is Aware of What Is Happening in Poland”
“Security issues dominated the discussions, but so did the rule of law and the current developments in Poland. The White House and members of Congress are receiving reports of efforts to censor some media outlets that are independent of the ruling authorities,” emphasized the Polish presidential candidate.
He stressed that the conversations included discussion of attacks on the media, including TV Republika.
“There were specific questions from people who are aware of the situation surrounding Polish media. Questions were raised about the unlawful withdrawal of public funding from the Law and Justice party—there were at least several such inquiries. These questions conveyed a belief that such things are happening: that elections in Poland are unfair due to media censorship, that the rule of law is being broken, and that actions incompatible with a democratic state are taking place, such as the confiscation of subsidies. This was an attempt to confirm, from an independent candidate, that this is not just the imposition of a political narrative,”
Nawrocki noted.
He pointed out that the use of state institutions to fight the political opposition was also discussed.
“What particularly surprised me was that my interlocutors provided specific examples of what is happening in Poland, trying to ask whether these were issues that the Polish public was also concerned about. The [case of Barbara Skrzypek -ed.] came up,”
he added.
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